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micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-SHffoZBShyLYXBIQaUzg" MIME-Version: 1.0 OpenPGP: url=https://posteo.de/keys/markus.probst@posteo.de.asc; preference=encrypt X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sun, 31 May 2026 13:58:31 +0000 X-BeenThere: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Direct Rendering Infrastructure - Development List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: dri-devel-bounces@lists.freedesktop.org Sender: "dri-devel" --=-SHffoZBShyLYXBIQaUzg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 2026-05-30 at 18:14 +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote: > On Sat May 30, 2026 at 4:51 PM CEST, Markus Probst wrote: > > On Sat, 2026-05-30 at 16:35 +0200, Danilo Krummrich wrote: > > > On Sat May 30, 2026 at 4:27 PM CEST, Markus Probst wrote: > > > > This would work, but I don't see how it would get rid of rust_priva= te_data in > > > > this way. The device private data will but the private bus abstract= ion data > > > > needs to outlive the devres callbacks (which is done by rust_privat= e_data). > > >=20 > > > Why? You only ever use it in the receive callback, which won't be cal= led after > > > device unbind anymore. > > Because the possibility exists that some classdev ops or Drop calls > > e.g. sdev.set_baudrate. This is a null pointer dereference after > > serdev_device_close has been called. I interpreted it to add a state to > > the abstraction private data which would prevent those calls (early > > return with error) after serdev_device_close has been called, but this > > would only work if it outlives these calls. > >=20 > > But it seems you were refering to something else with the state? >=20 > Yes, but I just notice that I'm a step ahead. With the lifetime model cla= ss > device registrations shouldn't be guarded with Devres anymore, but with a > lifetime. >=20 > (This also entirely eliminates the need for having different devres stage= s to > prevent drivers from smuggling a newly created Devres object into an exis= ting > Devres>'s data, which would be unsound for obvious reason= s.) >=20 > With this there is no way there are still class device callbacks after th= e bus > device private data has been dropped in the first place. There would still be Drop, which can access the device. Drop happens after remove_callback. Might be simpler for now: I can use a mutex to prevent calls in receive_buf after remove_callback has been called. 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