On Sat, 2026-03-14 at 14:42 +0100, Danilo Krummrich wrote:
> On Sat Mar 14, 2026 at 2:31 PM CET, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2026 at 12:08:09PM +0000, Markus Probst wrote:
> > > On Sat, 2026-03-14 at 12:52 +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Mar 14, 2026 at 11:42:02AM +0000, Markus Probst wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 2026-03-14 at 09:07 +0100, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Mar 13, 2026 at 06:12:31PM +0000, Markus Probst wrote:
> > > > > > > Add rust private data to `struct serdev_device`, as it is required by the
> > > > > > > rust abstraction added in the following commit
> > > > > > > (rust: add basic serial device bus abstractions).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > why is rust "special" here?  What's wrong with the existing private
> > > > > > pointer in this structure?  Why must we add another one?
> > > > > Because in rust, the device drvdata will be set after probe has run. In
> > > > > serdev, once the device has been opened, it can receive data. It must
> > > > > be opened either inside probe or before probe, because it can only be
> > > > > configured (baudrate, flow control etc.) and data written to after it
> > > > > has been opened. Because it can receive data before drvdata has been
> > > > > set yet, we need to ensure it waits on data receival for the probe to
> > > > > be finished. Otherwise this would be a null pointer dereference. To do
> > > > > this, we need to store a `Completion` for it to wait and a `bool` in
> > > > > case the probe exits with an error. We cannot store this data in the
> > > > > device drvdata, because this is where the drivers drvdata goes. We also
> > > > > cannot create a wrapper of the drivers drvdata, because
> > > > > `Device::drvdata::<T>()` would always fail in that case. That is why we
> > > > > need a "rust_private_data" for this abstraction to store the
> > > > > `Completion` and `bool`.
> > > > 
> > > > So why is this any different from any other bus type?  I don't see the
> > > > "uniqueness" here that has not required this to happen for PCI or USB or
> > > > anything else.
> > > > 
> > > > What am I missing?
> > > In Short:
> > > In serdev, we have to handle incoming device data (serdev calls on a
> > > function pointer we provide in advance), even in the case that the
> > > driver hasn't completed probe yet.
> > 
> > But how is that any different from a USB or PCI driver doing the same
> > thing?  Why is serdev so unique here?  What specific serdev function
> > causes this and why isn't it an issue with the C api?  Can we change the
> > C code to not require this?
> 
> I think the idea is to avoid bugs as in the mhz19b driver [1].
> 
> This driver's probe() looks like this:
> 
> 
> 	serdev_device_set_client_ops(serdev, &mhz19b_ops);
> 	ret = devm_serdev_device_open(dev, serdev);
> 
> 	// Lots of other initialization.
> 
> 	serdev_device_set_drvdata(serdev, indio_dev);
> 
> But the receive_buf() callback from mhz19b_ops dereferences the driver's private
> data.
> 
> Now, maybe this is actually prevented to become an actual race, since some
> regulator is only enabled subsequently:
> 
> 	devm_regulator_get_enable(dev, "vin");
> 
> But in any case in Rust it would be unsound as with this a driver could easily
> cause undefined behavior with safe APIs.
> 
> Maybe it is as simple as letting the abstraction call serdev_device_open() only
> after the driver's probe() has completed, but maybe there are reasons why that
> is not an option, that's a serdev question.
If we call it after probe, calls to `serdev_device_set_baudrate`,
`serdev_device_set_flow_control`, `serdev_device_set_parity`,
`serdev_device_write_buf`, `serdev_device_write`,
`serdev_device_write_flush`, which are exposed via the rust abstraction
would result in a null pointer dereference.

Thanks
- Markus Probst

> 
> [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v6.19.7/source/drivers/iio/chemical/mhz19b.c#L260